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US visa ban on Narendra Modi

Postby fsimon » Wed May 14, 2014 4:24 pm

Will the ban on his entering the USA be lifted if he is elected Prime Minister Of India?The ban was imposed over the genocide of Muslims in Gujarat in 2002.Narendra Modi was Chief Minister.
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Postby Michael-D » Wed May 14, 2014 5:06 pm

fsimon wrote:Will the ban on his entering the USA be lifted if he is elected Prime Minister Of India?The ban was imposed over the genocide of Muslims in Gujarat in 2002.Narendra Modi was Chief Minister.



The issue of Narendra Modi's visa status is one few United States citizens may be fimiliar with?


This WSJ article by James Mann may be of interest.



The story begins in 1998, when Congress passed the International Religious Freedom Act, which set up new U.S. mechanisms to combat religious persecution, including a standing Commission on International Religious Freedom.

At the time, many members of Congress were concerned about reports that Christians were being persecuted in such places as China and Sudan. But critics said that the act reflected a Christian or Judeo-Christian bias. The National Council of Churches even warned that the new law might "promote the cause of Christians to the exclusion of persecuted believers of other religions."

That's where Mr. Modi enters the story. He was virtually raised by India's Hindu nationalist movement. The son of a local grocer, he spent his childhood in the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, a Hindu nationalist group that has sought to turn India, which is wildly diverse but has a large Hindu majority, into a Hindu state. After the group founded the BJP as its political wing in 1980, the fiery Mr. Modi rose through its ranks, becoming chief minister of Gujarat in 2001.

The next year, horrific violence erupted between Hindus and Muslims in Mr. Modi's state. At a train station, Muslims surrounded a train carrying Hindu pilgrims, and the two groups clashed. The train was set on fire, and 58 passengers died. Many Hindus blamed Muslim agitators for the blaze, and Hindu mobs rampaged through Muslim communities, beating people to death, raping women and burning homes. Over a period of days, more than 1,000 people were killed.

After years of investigations, no evidence has emerged to link Mr. Modi directly to these attacks. But questions linger about whether he took appropriate action to stop them; in some cases, the police stood by and did nothing. Mr. Modi has repeatedly said that he did what he could.
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Finally, two months ago, as Mr. Modi's party—now running on a message of economic development and clean government—seemed poised to defeat the ruling Congress party in national elections, the Obama administration signaled a change. U.S. ambassador to India Nancy Powell held a one-hour meeting with Mr. Modi, the first such meeting since his visa was denied in 2005.

The State Department now has some grounds to claim that Mr. Modi's legal situation has changed since he was banned. Last year, an investigation approved by the Indian Supreme Court absolved Mr. Modi of complicity in the rioting. Based on that finding, a court in Gujarat found that there was insufficient evidence to prosecute him.

But if Mr. Modi becomes India's prime minister, that fact by itself will be the main reason for the U.S. to shift course and allow him to enter—not any greater U.S. comfort with his past actions (and inactions).

"You cannot deny a visa to an Indian prime minister, for heaven's sake. How could we conduct an important relationship?" said Dr. Tahir-Kheli. "But by the same token, I hope it will be an inclusive Mr. Modi, representing a country that has all kinds of religions and mind-sets."

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1 ... reno64-wsj
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Re: US visa ban on Narendra Modi

Postby Gabriel » Wed May 14, 2014 6:02 pm

This would seem similar to the U.S. banning the Iranian delegate to the U.N. Last I saw of this the ban was in effect.
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Re: US visa ban on Narendra Modi

Postby fsimon » Wed May 14, 2014 8:47 pm

Thanks very much.A priest based in Gujarat Fr Cedric Prakash SJ made a speech at a Church Halls in Goa(Grace Church Margao) asking people not to vote for the BJP.The police videotaped his speech at Margao besides comming uninvited in large numbers to the Hall.
An US delegation was denied visas to visit Oriss a where anti christian violence took place.Sadly too foreign missionaries are not allowed in many places in India so I am really thankful for the internet.
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Re: US visa ban on Narendra Modi

Postby seamas o dalaigh » Wed May 14, 2014 10:32 pm

Simon,

The UK lifted its ban in October 2012. The EU lifted its in ban March 2013. He has always been welcome in Australia, visiting here in 2001 and 2004. The Australian High Commission speaks to all political players in India.
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Re: US visa ban on Narendra Modi

Postby seamas o dalaigh » Tue May 20, 2014 2:14 am

'There are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen," wrote Lenin. This weekend, as the Nehru-Gandhi franchise took one of its biggest beatings ever and Narendra Modi made his first speech as PM-elect, India could be seen lurching in a new direction.

Talk of a "revolutionary moment" is usually journalistic hyperbole, but not here. The superlatives stack up: at 550m, or two-thirds of voters, this was a record turnout, delivering an absolute majority to one party for the first time in 30 years. And this is the first time the Hindu-fundamentalist BJP will be able to govern alone.

Couple that with the particular characteristics of the man who will be the next prime minister. India has had plenty of aberrant politicians: there was Lalu Prasad Yadav, who reportedly ruled Bihar from a prison cell, ringing his illiterate wife with instructions (Bihar, by the way, has a population almost one and a half times the size of Britain). Or Mayawati next door in Uttar Pradesh, who erected statues of herself.

Narendra Modi has the requisite colourful "backstory": he sold tea at railway stations and his election campaign was disrupted by the emergence of his long-ignored wife. But that is not what makes his ascension to ruling over a billion people most significant.

The simplest way to bring out the historical novelty of Modi is by comparing him with the values laid out in the first few words of his country's constitution.

Independent India, it says, will be a "Socialist, Secular, Democratic Republic". Well, the man they call NaMo is no socialist: the "development model" he coined while running Gujarat was based on handing cut-price land and soft loans to big business, who in turn flew him around on private jets. This brought cash into the state, but very little of it has been shared out beyond big cities such as Ahmedabad. Modi's Gujarat lagged behind the other big states in India in tackling infant mortality, poverty and illiteracy.

Secular? Modi was interviewed by one of the country's leading intellectuals, Ashis Nandy, in the 1990s, when he was almost unknown. Nandy later wrote: "I still remember the cool, measured tone in which he elaborated a theory of cosmic conspiracy against India that painted every Muslim as a suspected traitor and a potential terrorist. I came out of the interview shaken and told [his companion] Yagnik that, for the first time, I had met a textbook case of a fascist and a prospective killer, perhaps even a future mass murderer." In 2002, Modi presided when a pogrom killed 1,000-2,000 Muslims. As for "democratic", Modi ran his home state like an autocrat, giving thuggish lieutenant Amit Shah no fewer than 10 portfolios.



http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... nstitution

For over a decade, Modi has not lacked for comparators. He's been likened to Nero, Hitler, Putin. To me, he has all the makings of a Recep Tayyip Erdoğan: a hi-tech populist holding together a fragile coalition of big business, impatient urban youth and religious fundamentalists. Those disparate groups can be kept together as long as growth comes. But if it doesn't, Modi and his generals will go hunting for an enemy: Pakistan, India's own minorities, and the pseudo-seculars.
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Re: US visa ban on Narendra Modi

Postby Rose West » Tue May 20, 2014 8:10 am

The word from the White House is that President Obama will meet with him. Not sure if I've seen it in mainstream media, yet. It didn't specifically say he could come to the US, now that I think of it.
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Re: US visa ban on Narendra Modi

Postby seamas o dalaigh » Wed May 21, 2014 11:57 pm

Award-winning Indian writer UR Ananthamurthy has told the BBC that he has been receiving threatening calls for his comments criticising India's PM-elect Narendra Modi.

A few months ago, the Kannada language writer had said that he would leave the country if Mr Modi became India's PM.

He later retracted his statement saying he had made it out of frustration.

After Mr Modi's landslide victory in the election results, a Hindu hardline group said he should go to Pakistan.

The group, which calls itself NaMo Brigade, said it had sent the writer a one-way ticket to Karachi for 17 May - a day after the vote count. NaMo is short for Narendra Modi.

Although Mr Ananthamurthy denied receiving the ticket, he said he had received "calls at odd hours threatening me and asking me why don't you take the air ticket and go away to Pakistan".

"It's very mean of them. I am a very serious writer of this country. I am now 82. I have written novels which are known all over the world. I have communicated my concept of the Indian village to the world. I am not an elitist writer. I cannot be made fun of like that. I am a very proud man," he said.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-27499148

Representatives of the NaMo Brigade did not respond to calls from the BBC.

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Re: US visa ban on Narendra Modi

Postby fsimon » Thu May 22, 2014 11:40 am

Arvind Kejriwal has refused bail.His crime was to to name Nitin Gadkari of the BJP as a very corrupt man.It is nice that Obama has invited Modi because that puts Modi in the spotlight.It is very important that ties improve.However things like the demolition of the babri masjid ,godhra train burning,Orissa anti christian violence must not repeat. The Tamil chief minister did not like that the Sri Lankan head was invited because the the decimation of Tamils linked to the Ltte by the SRI Lankan army.
Why is genocide taken so casually?
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Re: US visa ban on Narendra Modi

Postby Gabriel » Thu May 22, 2014 1:56 pm

Rose West wrote:The word from the White House is that President Obama will meet with him. Not sure if I've seen it in mainstream media, yet. It didn't specifically say he could come to the US, now that I think of it.
Maybe they can meet on Ellis Island.
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Re: US visa ban on Narendra Modi

Postby fsimon » Fri Sep 26, 2014 7:51 pm

So modi is finally visiting the US.I would like your views if any on his visit
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Re: US visa ban on Narendra Modi

Postby Gabriel » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:24 pm

White House to host fasting Indian leader -- for dinner

Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi will join President Obama for dinner on Monday and attend a State Department lunch the next day. But there's one hitch.

Modi won't eat any of the food.

The new prime minister is in the midst of a nine-day fast dedicated to the Hindu goddess Durga and consumes only water or lemon water. His first visit to Washington as leader of the world's largest democracy, for his first meeting with Obama, raises the prospect of the fasting Modi conducting his nation's business at tables where multiple courses of food are being served.
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White House officials said Friday that the dietary and other needs of visiting foreign leaders are always taken into account and that Modi is no exception. Monday's dinner is slated to be a working meal that will include a number of representatives from both countries.

"If Prime Minister Modi or other members who are participating in that working dinner ... choose not to eat based on their own religious or cultural observance, then we'll certainly work to accommodate their needs as best we can," White House spokesman Josh Earnest told reporters.
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I t should be simple to accommodate the needs of someone who is fasting.
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Re: US visa ban on Narendra Modi

Postby Bob A » Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:33 pm

What! No mandate requiring him to violate his religious practices?
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Re: US visa ban on Narendra Modi

Postby Gabriel » Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:52 pm

As I recall US troops were recently forbidden to eat in the presence of Moslems during the month of Ramadan.
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Re: US visa ban on Narendra Modi

Postby fsimon » Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:41 pm

I dislike modi's public propagation of his Hindu idols.India is 13 % Muslim and about 2% Christian.One of the first things he did after his election was to visit a Hindu temple and have it publicly broadcast
I am looking forward to very simple things like solar energy, new concept toilets for India's poor,control on pollution,high speed trains.
Why not let american missionaries work freely in India?Why the fear?Its obvious because the human heart loves goodness which Christ provides.
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Re: US visa ban on Narendra Modi

Postby fsimon » Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:43 pm

Gabriel Us troops are real gentlemen we shared the same dining hall in Afghanistan.Besides being the finest fighting force they are fine people as well
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Re: US visa ban on Narendra Modi

Postby fsimon » Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:47 pm

Bob A. A priest fr victor ferrao has written a blog on Hindu nationalism. I am using a tab sorry can't paste the link here
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Re: US visa ban on Narendra Modi

Postby fsimon » Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:50 pm

The problem with fasting is that there is a ban on cow slaughter in many states in india
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Postby fsimon » Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:57 pm

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Re: US visa ban on Narendra Modi

Postby seamas o dalaigh » Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:27 am

A New York court has ordered Narendra Modi to answer allegations of "attempted genocide" over deadly anti-Muslim riots, as he begins his first US visit as India's prime minister.

The complaint relates to an outbreak of anti-Muslim rioting in 2002 in the western Indian state of Gujarat, where Mr Modi served as chief minister before he was elected prime minister in May.



http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-26/i ... ge/5773018
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Re: US visa ban on Narendra Modi

Postby fsimon » Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:46 am

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I feel that culprits should not be allowed to evade justice.
Can a chief minister wash his hands when riots & murder take place?
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Re: US visa ban on Narendra Modi

Postby fsimon » Sat Nov 15, 2014 7:48 am

http://www.counterview.net/2014/11/now- ... ainst.html

So Modi faces a reception in Australia too-hahaha
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Re: US visa ban on Narendra Modi

Postby seamas o dalaigh » Sat Nov 15, 2014 7:29 pm

Simon,

Don't hold your breath. I don't see how the American Justice Center can have any standing before an Australian court in this matter since they are not an aggrieved party. An Australian court, moreover, would have no jurisdiction in the matter as the alleged crimes were committed outside Australian territory.

The proper forum, I believe, would be the International Court of Justice.
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Re: US visa ban on Narendra Modi

Postby fsimon » Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:12 am

Thanks
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Re: US visa ban on Narendra Modi

Postby seamas o dalaigh » Mon Nov 17, 2014 6:58 pm

Simon,

Depressingly, the mass-murderer Modi has received a rapturous reception here in Sydney. People just don't seem to understand that the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) wants to rid India of Moslems in the same way another party once wanted to rid Germany of Jews.

Thousands of Indian Australians flocked to a Sydney stadium to hear recently elected Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi speak last night. It's the first time in almost 30 years that an Indian Prime Minister has visited, and the length of his stay is an indication of Australia's growing importance to New Delhi. Mr Modi told the crowd both countries have a lot to gain from each other.


David Marr commented, "Who are these people? I wonder how many of them are Moslems?".
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Re: US visa ban on Narendra Modi

Postby fsimon » Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:36 am

Moslems first ,Christians next.When will western missionaries be allowed to work freely in India?There are many schools and hospitals in India that bear testimony to the fact that saints are not unique to India.Hindu fundamentalism cannot block the good of other faiths.Noteworthy is the fact that despite attacks on catholic churches in south canara( around mangalore)Catholics did not retaliate. Another thing that troubles me is there is an agreement for exchange of prisoners.Quite simply indian prisons are hellholes
Many indians feel that attacks on muslims are ok
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Postby fsimon » Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:29 am

What Modi is promising is robust economic growth.So the visit to The USA.It is no surprise that Angela Merkel raised the issue of the dropping of German from kendra vidyalaya schools.I have an ancient uncle who studied to be a doctor in germany in the 1950s-70s.Why should german be not allowed?
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/kendr ... 1416374840

To me this is plain trash.Because germans are some of the nicest people I have met online-(Pope Benedict aside).It is important to be open by relishing cultures of other peoples.
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Re: US visa ban on Narendra Modi

Postby fsimon » Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:39 am

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/ ... z3JOamgvHo
Perhaps modi agrees with chinese crackdowns? Or thay dont matter?

There are lots of tibetans in india
http://www.binoygupta.com/travel_india/ ... -tibet-54/
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Postby fsimon » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:05 am

Even in goa which is 25% catholic there is persecution of muslims
https://www.facebook.com/tousifdenavelim?fref=ts
Here an actor is charged by the police.I do not know if he has committed any crime but his play "akantwadi goem naka" literally translated "terrorists not wanted in goa" was not like by the sri ram sene(army of lord ram).They wanted to set foot in goa and this play tried to explain the consequences of Hindu fanaticism
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Postby fsimon » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:17 am

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 969684.cms

MARGAO: 'Akantwadi Goem Naka' (Goa doesn't need terrorists) staged its premier show to a packed house, amid high drama and heavy police presence inside and outside the Gomant Vidya Niketan, Margao, on Saturday. It almost didn't get staged.

Around 11am, producer-director Tousif de Navelim told Margao police that he had received fresh threats, with the caller threatening to murder his family and burn the hall if the tiatr was staged. The tiatr has drawn the ire of right-wing group Sriram Sena that had sought a ban and even a court stay on the same.

Fearing for his life and the safety of others, Tousif informed the police and the management of the auditorium that he was calling off the show. He also sent back his artists, the props and backdrops.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Ram_Sena
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Postby fsimon » Sat Nov 22, 2014 12:48 am

Obama to be chief guest at Indian republic day parade
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I know nothing of the USA ,but I think that Obama should bring along with him a few a few Christians /catholics who would like to spread the Gospel in India.I enjoy many free online courses from coursera,edx MOOcs,Fr Robert Barron is just one inspriringg preacher .Working in India can be very challenging and energising too.Why is modi not inviting ?
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Postby fsimon » Wed Nov 26, 2014 3:36 am

http://www.epaperoheraldo.in/Details.as ... 11/26/2014


Can India join the world community when this is the norm?
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Postby fsimon » Tue Dec 02, 2014 2:41 am

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/muslims-chri ... 37-64.html

New Delhi: Minister of State for Food Processing Industries Sadhvi Niranjan Jyoti has sparked off a controversy by claiming that everyone including Muslims and Christians are sons of Ram.

While asserting her point and convincing people to vote for the Bharatiya Janata Party, she added that those who do not believe in this ideology, do not belong to India. "It is for you to decide, whether you want to vote for those who believe in Ram or those who are non-believers," she said
. :lol:
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Postby fsimon » Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:52 am

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Re: US visa ban on Narendra Modi

Postby Gabriel » Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:26 pm

fsimon wrote:http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-30494612

i wonder "what is a fair trial?"


According to recent protests, it is one that agrees with my evaluation of the matter.
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Postby seamas o dalaigh » Tue Dec 30, 2014 7:43 pm

The president of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of India has criticised forced conversions of Christians to Hinduism.

Cardinal Baselios Cleemis Thottunkal, major archbishop of the Syro-Malankara Catholic Church, said that he was gravely concerned that “conversion events are being held under the label of ‘homecoming'”.

He urged Indian prime minister Narendra Modi to intervene to address concerns surrounding “forcible conversions” across India, citing reports of such actions in Uttar Pradesh, Gujarat and Kerala states.



http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/20 ... -hinduism/

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Postby fsimon » Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:47 am

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Wish you a very happy new year.Thanks for following what is going on in india. This is actually persecution.If they were really sincere they would allow conversions to Christianity as well
Goa,s archbishop too has protested so has the national forum of churches
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 622781.cms

I consider these people cowards and scum .My reaction is one of anger.-inclining towards revenge.Why are they so afraid of attacking where Christians are strong? Why don't they give visas for christian missionaries from the west to propagate the Faith?
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Postby fsimon » Fri Jan 02, 2015 12:22 am

RSS= right wing hindu fanatic group

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 548199.cms


Seamas
The rss tried to hold a convention in a catholic stronghold.They failed.

They harassed a priest at night and again failed
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 800712.cms

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/g ... 935757.ece

http://www.heraldgoa.in/Goa/The-Sunday- ... 62146.html
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my facebook account has been locked-cybercensorship
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Re: US visa ban on Narendra Modi

Postby seamas o dalaigh » Wed Jan 14, 2015 7:38 pm

A US federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit against Indian prime minister Narendra Modi that accused him of attempted genocide over deadly anti-Muslim riots in 2002.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-15/u ... ia/6018150

New York judge Analisa Torres threw out the suit on the grounds that Mr Modi was immune from the court's jurisdiction after the US government said he was entitled to immunity as a sitting head of government.


The proper forum, I believe, would be the International Court of Justice.
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Re: US visa ban on Narendra Modi

Postby fsimon » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:41 am

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 125855.cms

As we celebrate the new rise of the Indo-US friendship, the fact that the lives of the ordinary people of our country are put on the line remains invisible as we have bowed down to the liability and safety concerns in the nuclear deal. Hence, we need to critically see through the glitz and glamour how the deal allows suppliers to take unbridled and excessive risks without being held accountable.

It still remains hidden how the Modi government without paying heed to the 2010 liability law will operationalize the deal. The intent of the government to backstab the victims of possible accidents in civil nuclear plants remains hidden in the mist. This is exactly what needs to be brought to the visibility so that what is called inclusive development becomes a reality.

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http://www.ucanindia.in/news/police-cra ... 7734/daily

"'Delhi police on Thursday detained more than 100 Christian protesters, including priests and nuns, who were dragged into police buses during a demonstration against the most recent in a string of attacks on churches."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-30996317

"President Obama's public address to Indians as his last event in Delhi was the icing on the cake - he celebrated India's diversity and hoped that the country won't splinter along religious lines or any other lines.''
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Postby seamas o dalaigh » Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:30 pm

...and hoped that the country won't splinter along religious lines


Has he never heard of Lord Curzon? Doesn't he know that the subcontinent was partitioned along religious lines in 1947? What planet does he live on?

The Partition of India was the partition of the British Indian Empire that led to the creation of the sovereign states of the Dominion of Pakistan (it later split into the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and the People's Republic of Bangladesh) and the Union of India (later Republic of India) on 15 August 1947...

In the riots which preceded the partition in the Punjab region, between 200,000 to 500,000 people were killed in the retributive genocide. UNHCR estimates 14 million Hindus, Sikhs and Muslims were displaced during the partition; it was the largest mass migration in human history.

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Postby fsimon » Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:40 am

Has he never heard of Lord Curzon? Doesn't he know that the subcontinent was partitioned along religious lines in 1947? What planet does he live on?

India after partition is also splintered to some extent .Obama is right IMO .But then India is still in some aspects socially backward.Hindus and muslims in some areas still attack one another.

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... ocialMedia

US President Barack Obama on Thursday said “acts of intolerance” experienced by religious faiths of all types in India in the past few years would have shocked Mahatma Gandhi.

I could not agree more
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Postby seamas o dalaigh » Sun May 03, 2015 7:41 pm

The Indian government has rejected the findings of a United States report that criticized the treatment of religious minorities after Indian Prime Minister, Narendra Modi came to power last year.


http://www.news.va/en/news/indian-govt- ... us-minorit

The 2015 report by the United States Commission on International Religious Freedom said that since Narendra Modi’s Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) took over, religious minorities have been subject to derogatory comments by BLP-linked politicians and violent attacks and forced conversions by Hindu nationalist groups.
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Re: US visa ban on Narendra Modi

Postby Gabriel » Mon May 04, 2015 6:00 pm

seamas o dalaigh wrote:
...and hoped that the country won't splinter along religious lines


Has he never heard of Lord Curzon? Doesn't he know that the subcontinent was partitioned along religious lines in 1947? What planet does he live on?
...


President Obama's grasp of history does not impress me. :mrgreen:
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