A Question about yesterday's Gospel

A Question about yesterday's Gospel

Postby lasaxman » Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:58 am

The first part of Sunday's Gospel (Luke 11).
Jesus was praying in a certain place, and when he had finished,
one of his disciples said to him,
"Lord, teach us to pray just as John taught his disciples."
He said to them, "When you pray, say:
Father, hallowed be your name,
your kingdom come.
Give us each day our daily bread
and forgive us our sins
for we ourselves forgive everyone in debt to us,
and do not subject us to the final test."



What is meant by "the final test"?
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Re: A Question about yesterday's Gospel

Postby lasaxman » Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:50 pm

Other Bible's say "lead us not into temptation". Which is the more accurate translation?
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Re: A Question about yesterday's Gospel

Postby seamas o dalaigh » Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:54 pm

David,

The original Koine πειρασμόν means "temptation".


From Strong's Concordance
Original Word: πειρασμός, οῦ, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: peirasmos
Phonetic Spelling: (pi-ras-mos')
Short Definition: trial, testing, temptation
Definition: (a) trial, probation, testing, being tried, (b) temptation, (c) calamity, affliction.

temptation or test – both senses can apply simultaneously (depending on the context). The positive sense ("test") and negative sense ("temptation") are functions of the context (not merely the words themselves).


http://biblehub.com/greek/3986.htm
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Re: A Question about yesterday's Gospel

Postby seamas o dalaigh » Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:04 pm

Just as a matter of idle curiosity, I've just done a search on the occurrence of the word "πειρασμόν" in the New Testament.

Matthew 6:13
Matthew 26:41
Mark 14:38
Luke 4:13
Luke11:4
Luke 22:40
Luke 22:46
Galatians 4:14
1 Timothy 6:9
James 1:12
1 Peter 4:12

In each of the above apart from the last two the meaning is "temptation" only. In James it is both "trial" and "temptation". In Peter it is "test" and "trial".
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