Mary Did You Know?

Mary Did You Know?

Postby lasaxman » Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:36 am

This popular Christmas song is often sung in Catholic churches at this time of year.
It is also frequently criticized for being theologically incorrect.

It was sung at my parish this past Sunday (Dec 31st) and together with the Gospel reading it made for an interesting juxtaposition.

The main criticism I've heard is that the question in the title is wrongheaded because, of course Mary knew all that Jesus was and all that he would do.

But the Gospel (Luke 2) says

Now there was a man in Jerusalem whose name was Simeon.
This man was righteous and devout,
awaiting the consolation of Israel,
and the Holy Spirit was upon him.
It had been revealed to him by the Holy Spirit
that he should not see death
before he had seen the Christ of the Lord.
He came in the Spirit into the temple;
and when the parents brought in the child Jesus
to perform the custom of the law in regard to him,
He took him into his arms and blessed God, saying:
"Now, Master, you may let your servant go
in peace, according to your word,
for my eyes have seen your salvation,
which you prepared in sight of all the peoples,
a light for revelation to the Gentiles,
and glory for your people Israel."
The child's father and mother were amazed at what was said about him;
and Simeon blessed them and said to Mary his mother,
"Behold, this child is destined
for the fall and rise of many in Israel,
and to be a sign that will be contradicted
—and you yourself a sword will pierce—
so that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed."


So my question is, why would Mary and Joseph be amazed if they had full knowledge of Jesus divinity, abilitiy and mission?
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Re: Mary Did You Know?

Postby lasaxman » Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:38 am

For reference, here are the lyrics to the song.

Mary did you know that your baby boy will one day walk on water?
Mary did you know that your baby boy will save our sons and daughters?
Did you know that your baby boy has come to make you new?
This child that you've delivered, will soon deliver you

Mary did you know that your baby boy will give sight to a blind man?
Mary did you know that your baby boy will calm a storm with his hand?
Did you know that your baby boy has walked where angels trod?
And when you kiss your little baby, you have kissed the face of God
Mary did you know, Mary did you know, Mary did you know

The blind will see, the deaf will hear and the dead will live again
The lame will leap, the dumb will speak, the praises of the lamb

Mary did you know that your baby boy is Lord of all creation?
Mary did you know that your baby boy will one day rule the nations?
Did you know that your baby boy is heaven's perfect Lamb?
This sleeping child you're holding is the great I am
Mary did you know, Mary did you know, Mary did you know
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Re: Mary Did You Know?

Postby seamas o dalaigh » Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:19 pm

David,

So my question is, why would Mary and Joseph be amazed if they had full knowledge of Jesus divinity...


"The knowledge of supernatural things, as often as it is brought to the recollection, renews the miracle in the mind, and hence it is said, His father and mother marveled at those things which were said of him."

http://dhspriory.org/thomas/CALuke.htm#2
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Re: Mary Did You Know?

Postby inthegobi » Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:55 pm

I never liked the lecturing and superior tone of it. Mary, did you know? Well, *we* do.

The trouble I see is that it is ambiguous: if you accuse the lyricist of bad theology, he can smoothly say it is a series of *rhetorical* questions, to which the answer is 'of course you do, Mary, of course you do'. Too smooth, too smooth.

There's another Marian hymn in Oregon Catholic Press' *Breaking Bread* that says something like 'No one knows...' then tells us several things we know about Mary.

A non-Marian hymn, 'Gather Us In' (which i admit using, 'cause they *sing* it) has a more subtle falsehood. One verse says 'We are the young/ Our lives are a myst'ry' - this is false because the young *don't typically think* their lives *are* a mystery, and so the verse makes them sing insincerely, which seems a very, *very* bad thing to do. Thank goodness I'm so cynical and arrogant that i doubt anhone but me gets it. But I would skip that verse if I could.

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