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Publicly accepted modern slavery

Postby Kent » Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:00 pm

From my own brief reading, in law there is something called Jus Abutendi, meaning (I think) that you have to own something in order to have the right to destroy (or make any use of) it. But is not abortion the intended destruction of a human being? Therefore, procuring an abortion would seem to mean an implicit claim of ownership of the (aborted) human being. But is not this claim of ownership of a human being the very definition of slavery? If so, then why is not abortion forbidden by the 13th Amendment?
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slightly revised version

Postby Kent » Sun May 12, 2019 9:17 pm

Recently in my reading I came across a legal term called Jus Abutendi, meaning (I think) that you have to own something in order to have the right to make any use of it, including to destroy it. But is not abortion the intended destruction of a human being? Therefore, procuring an abortion would seem to mean an implicit claim of ownership of the (aborted) human being. But is not this claim of ownership of a human being the very definition of slavery? If so, then why is not abortion forbidden by the 13th Amendment?
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Re: Publicly accepted modern slavery

Postby lasaxman » Thu May 16, 2019 1:46 am

Wouldn't that legal principle apply to all killing, including war and state executions? Even self-defense?
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Re: Publicly accepted modern slavery

Postby Kent » Thu May 16, 2019 5:50 pm

In most of those cases the state, not the person, is acting, so I do not think so. Actual (not imagined) self-defense is a well-recognized but whether it is licit depends of the individual circumstance. Those instances you mention regarding state actions generally should be intended for defense of the state. (If, Heaven forfend, I ever have to serve on a capitol case jury, my opinion on whether the convicted defendant should be executed would depend on whether or not, in my best judgment, society can be permanently protected from future harm from the criminal. It is clear that there are some for which even a "supermax" prison is insufficient.)

Clearly, though, the logic does extend to things like abortifacient "contraceptives", in vitro techniques, embryo banks, etc.
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Re: Publicly accepted modern slavery

Postby Kent » Tue May 21, 2019 7:20 pm

Published today, here.
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